Two blog articles within 24 hours! It probably won't happen again, at least for a while.
More insight into this mystery. I have had the help of experienced genealogists working with me today, and here is what I have found:
(Remember, this is still theoretical).
It looks like Capitola Grinlinton Guth may have gone on an orphan Train sometime after her birth but before she was 14. There is no logical reason that a person would start out in New York, and end up living with another family that doesn't even appear to be related, in a state far away. So, a couple of people have suggested that I look into the Orphan Train History.
Lots of children were sent on Orphan Trains during this time period. Life must have been very hard for families who lived in this time period. When we read about the History in America during the 1800s, we don't hear about Orphan Trains and the difficult life people had to live through each day.
Someone else also has access to the records in Essex County, NJ., and has found that according to a record, George William Guth had been married once prior to his marriage to Capitola. This is also a surprise to me. I will look into this tomorrow when I have some time.
If Capitola did indeed go on an Orphan Train, this explains a lot. It helps explain why we can't find her in any census records of New York or New Jersey until she gets married. It explains why, on her death certificate, it says she was born in Illinois. It helps us to understand that if she is truly the child of Robert Grinlinton and Julia Carnrike, then why her name never appears in the census records of this family, when they were taken.
Monday, August 27, 2018
Possible Guth-Grinlinton-Carnrike- and Now....Maybe, Just Maybe Clark Connection
I am looking for the connection between the family of George Clark and the family of Julia Carnrike Grinlinton, if there is one.
You might be asking, how does this tie in with the Guth family?
We have a lot of speculation, but there could be actual ties among all of these families.
The mystery starts with my great grandmother, Georgianna Capitola Grinlinton (whom I have never met) who was married to George William Guth in 1888, in Essex County, NJ.
You see, I have no idea, or documentation, at least, of who Capitola's mother was. We know her father was Robert Grinlinton, who was said to have been born in NY somewhere, although one census record indicated he was 'Scotch'.
There is some indication that this Robert Grinlinton may have married Julia Carnrike, in Troy, NY. This couple may have lived in NYC in 1867, when Capitola was born.
Robert and Julia Grinlinton ended up in Essex County sometime after that. They had a daughter named 'Emma', born around 1854, and for some unknown reason to me, while the family still lived in NY, Emma lived with a Richardson family in NJ.
The woman in the Richardson family, was actually the sister of Robert Grinlinton. Her name was Margaret. So, the plot thickens and more questions arise.
Whenever this Grinlinton family is listed, Capitola's name never appears. Yet, so many things fall in place that it seems like she would be part of this family.
As you may remember, on Capitola's death certificate, it states she was born in Illinois. I have no recollection of any of my relatives ever living in Illinois. But someone found something of interest relating to this possible data.
As I was posting in a Facebook group about this mystery, someone sent in a comment which had a link to a census in Illinois for the year 1880. A Cap Grinlinda was found in Illinois living with a family headed up by a David Quint. David Quint was widowed, and other members of his house hold were his daughter, Olive Quint Clark, who was also widowed, and her children. Everyone listed was born in Maine, except there was an interesting clue. Olive Clark's husband was born in New York. After doing some research, I found a little information on him. He was born in NY around 1843, and his name was George Clark. No information was given on where in NY he was born.
So, as the mystery continues, the next question to dig into is, Is George Clark in some way related to Julia Carnrike or Robert Grinlinton, and if so, what is the connection? Were Robert Grinlinton and Julia Carnrike too poor to take care of their children, and perhaps sent them to relatives to live with so they could survive?
Also, one more thought just came to mind. There are a lot of Robert Grinlintons who were involved in the military. Perhaps this is why it is hard to pinpoint the true Robert Grinlinton who was my ancestor and the father in law of George William Guth, my great grandfather. Maybe he was missing in census records during the Civil War? Maybe that is why Julia Carnrike Grinlinton did not bear any children during the early to mid 1860s?
So, the search is on to find out if there is a connection between this Grinlinton family and the George Clark family.
You might be asking, how does this tie in with the Guth family?
We have a lot of speculation, but there could be actual ties among all of these families.
The mystery starts with my great grandmother, Georgianna Capitola Grinlinton (whom I have never met) who was married to George William Guth in 1888, in Essex County, NJ.
You see, I have no idea, or documentation, at least, of who Capitola's mother was. We know her father was Robert Grinlinton, who was said to have been born in NY somewhere, although one census record indicated he was 'Scotch'.
There is some indication that this Robert Grinlinton may have married Julia Carnrike, in Troy, NY. This couple may have lived in NYC in 1867, when Capitola was born.
Robert and Julia Grinlinton ended up in Essex County sometime after that. They had a daughter named 'Emma', born around 1854, and for some unknown reason to me, while the family still lived in NY, Emma lived with a Richardson family in NJ.
The woman in the Richardson family, was actually the sister of Robert Grinlinton. Her name was Margaret. So, the plot thickens and more questions arise.
Whenever this Grinlinton family is listed, Capitola's name never appears. Yet, so many things fall in place that it seems like she would be part of this family.
As you may remember, on Capitola's death certificate, it states she was born in Illinois. I have no recollection of any of my relatives ever living in Illinois. But someone found something of interest relating to this possible data.
As I was posting in a Facebook group about this mystery, someone sent in a comment which had a link to a census in Illinois for the year 1880. A Cap Grinlinda was found in Illinois living with a family headed up by a David Quint. David Quint was widowed, and other members of his house hold were his daughter, Olive Quint Clark, who was also widowed, and her children. Everyone listed was born in Maine, except there was an interesting clue. Olive Clark's husband was born in New York. After doing some research, I found a little information on him. He was born in NY around 1843, and his name was George Clark. No information was given on where in NY he was born.
So, as the mystery continues, the next question to dig into is, Is George Clark in some way related to Julia Carnrike or Robert Grinlinton, and if so, what is the connection? Were Robert Grinlinton and Julia Carnrike too poor to take care of their children, and perhaps sent them to relatives to live with so they could survive?
Also, one more thought just came to mind. There are a lot of Robert Grinlintons who were involved in the military. Perhaps this is why it is hard to pinpoint the true Robert Grinlinton who was my ancestor and the father in law of George William Guth, my great grandfather. Maybe he was missing in census records during the Civil War? Maybe that is why Julia Carnrike Grinlinton did not bear any children during the early to mid 1860s?
So, the search is on to find out if there is a connection between this Grinlinton family and the George Clark family.
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